Episode 5: Articles of Consideration – Agco and Trimble – Vomitoxin in Corn – Deere Right to Work – World Record Soybeans Using Brandt Fertilizer
Transcript
Speaker 1 (00:00):
<silence> Hey guys, welcome back to an earful podcast about farming and country life. Zach, what do we got going on today?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, it’s a little chilly out this morning, but not too bad. Looking like we might finish up soybeans today ahead of this rain coming through, uh, this afternoon, evening. Um, looking pretty good, honestly.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah. Um, oh, we got 15 acres left, so not miserable. Should be able to do it as long as the rain holds off long enough.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully, uh, we can get those things done and uh, we can at least check, check that box.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah. Yeah. And then we get to become millwrights for the next, however many days to get this corn operation ready to rock and roll now that we have a crane here.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Amen. Yeah, we have, we have a grain system here on the farm. We constantly are doing improvements on. And, um, one thing we can’t do is, uh, crane work, which is probably for the best, but, uh, we’re patiently, we’re impatiently waiting for the, uh, crane guys to get done.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yep. So, um, we do know how to run a welder. I know how to run a crane, but I’ll try. We can build downspouts and we’ll make it happen. We won’t, we won’t let the combine sit very many days.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
No, no. We, uh, we’re not gonna lose any, any time this time of year ’cause it gets late in a hurry. And I personally don’t feel like, uh, shelling corn on Christmas.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah. And I don’t feel like shelling down corn.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
No, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So, uh, it’s today. Today we were gonna structure it a little bit like another episode we’ve done. We each picked an article, um, on a topic that we thought was interesting or important to talk about. And, uh, I don’t know what Zach’s got. He doesn’t know what I have. We’re just gonna talk about it a little bit. So, Zach, I guess go ahead and start us off.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Alrighty. Yeah, just doing a little bit of reading around. Always a lot to, always a lot of news to take in. There’s so many news outlets, uh, even, even just agriculture based. So it’s always interesting just to go read through and see what’s going on around the world. Um, one thing I saw that, I don’t know if you’re aware of or not, agco, you know, our good friends agco. Yeah. Big agco to acquire a majority of Trimble agriculture assets for $2 billion 80.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I didn’t
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Know that. 85% state.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So I wonder how that affects, uh, CNH ’cause cases running all tremble stuff in there, and that’s where their technology’s coming from. I assume AGCO is just gonna sell it to ’em now.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I would assume so. I think AGCO just wants to make money off everybody.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
AGCO is getting to be a boss. Oh, they are. I mean, they own GSI, I mean, you go past mayors, uh, they got every color under the sun. Yeah. So they’ve got, they’ve got their hands in a lot of pots.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah. They really do. And, uh, it’s, it is, I don’t know, you have to try to look at, look at the good and bad and everything, but, you know, you hate to see these companies just continually acquire. They never really unload anything and, uh, you know, kind of say monopolizing, but I mean, that is kind of what it is. Right,
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Right. I mean, Trimble’s not just ag, they do a bunch in the
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Construction
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Industry.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
They’re gonna have, I mean, really, I think they’re like kind of the standard in the construction industry. Obviously I’m not a construction worker, but
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh, at least everywhere I see it. I mean, that is kind of the standard thing. I think Trimble offers a lot of solutions to fit a lot of things.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah. So that’s, that’s a big acquisition. You say 2 billion?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, $2 billion cash, which I don’t know who’s carrying that cash.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I don’t know. I actually thought it might be a little higher than that.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah. For 85% of it.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, okay, but still that’s, yeah, that’s a big purchase.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It is crazy though, man. I mean, that’s just a lot of money gets thrown around so money’s coming in for them somewhere, right? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah. They just charge a little bit extra for that Gleaner <laugh>. Oh.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh, that is,
Speaker 1 (04:26):
They’re not even silver anymore. What a
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Knockoff. I know. It’s getting ridiculous out there. They’re not even a silver cedar anymore, now
Speaker 1 (04:33):
They’re black cedar.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Depends on what kind you got. But
Speaker 2 (04:38):
It is kind of like the club though. You get the, you know, the Gleaner guys.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Oh yeah. Those guys are committed. You know how fast you can take a road route?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
One of those things. It’s wild man. Um, holy crap. Mean every, it is funny to me. I mean, everybody’s loyal to their, um, loyal to their equipment, you know, brand or whatever, but some people are like to a fault
Speaker 1 (04:57):
<laugh>. Well, I just think it’s funny that the selling point for those things is that I can have the rotor outta that in 30 minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah. I think my aim is to not have to do a major disassembly. Right. If
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I’m pulling the rotor out of an S six 90, we’re having a bad week.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah. Bad. Yeah. It’d be a real bad week.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah. So let’s just Yeah, that’s not, that’s not selling
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Point. And, and I don’t know how long it would take us to get the rotor out of our, uh, deer combine, but I don’t wanna find out.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, no, no, no. We’ve plugged it once. That was enough.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
It wasn’t enough. That was pretty, that was less than enjoyable, I think.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Okay. So the most important thing today, I want to hear your honest review on this black rifle coffee you just opened
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Up. Oh my God. Tell you what, it’s pretty good. It’s pretty good. Grabbed a can of Black Rifle coffee company, espresso mocha, and, um,
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You guys are out there. We’re we’re taking sponsorships.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, for sure. No, this is just a random thing I picked up this morning. I’ve never ever had black rifle coffee. Not in any form, but I saw this today and I thought, I’ll just try it. And, uh, you know what? Not too bad. Good. Not too bad. And, uh, I, I would recommend, I would recommend
Speaker 1 (06:12):
AGCO be buying ’em pretty
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Soon. Yeah, it’s fine. AGCO will be acquiring black rifle Coffee Company wants a, uh, probably are a little bit bigger.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
AGCO is still pretty much, I mean, I guess until now, they’ve just been in kind of the iron business. I wonder if AGCO or something, I know we’ve talked, I’ve known that there has been talks about, uh, bear dropping their crop science division. I don’t know what all that entails. They get rid of their chemistry or just their seed. Would somebody like AGCO pick that up?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I don’t know. I mean,
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That’s a totally different business model, but if you’re trying to diversify within your industry,
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That’s a way to do it. Yeah, I mean, it is. I mean, yeah. I mean, AGCO definitely just, just more geared towards steel. But if they’re, they’re getting into more of the tech of it. I don’t see where do you stop? I mean, if, where do you stop?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah. ’cause when I, when I think of who’s gonna be able to buy that if they actually sell it. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, you know, it’s all rumors right now. I mean, I think BASF. Yeah. I don’t think Corteva is gonna be interested in that. It’s, it’s,
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
They’ve got their own thing going on. They don’t, yeah. They don’t need to buy somebody else’s problem.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Uh, FMCI don’t think is big enough.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
No, probably not.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
They don’t have a deep enough lineup to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It’d be pretty bold.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I mean, BASF is the only one I can think of, but unless you get some kind of outsider like agco, that would be wild.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
I can’t even imagine.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Could it be good or bad? Who’s to say
Speaker 1 (07:44):
You could get a discount on your tractor if you buy 1000 bags of seed?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Oh, wouldn’t that just be it? Yeah. Before too long you probably get on your phone, place your seed order by a tractor. It’ll be one app. It’ll just be agco. Oh
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah. Well that’s the, that’s the Becks app. You buy so much corn and then you get to select your
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Prize. Oh, that’s true. That’s true. That’s true. Oh, it’s a bundle. Alright. It’s
Speaker 1 (08:07):
A <laugh>. They’re gonna have flow advertising forms. It’s gonna be like progressive. Yeah,
Speaker 2 (08:11):
For sure. Oh, that’s funny.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You got anything else in that one you wanna talk about?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
No, not really. I think I just was, I just thought that kind of blew my mind that they were gonna pick that up like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It’s a pretty, it’d be interesting. Well, I don’t know when it’ll all go through, but it’d be interesting at Louisville to see if they combine the booths or what they do.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh yeah. It’ll, it will be funny. And it’s, you know, if something big like that goes down, that’s always the talk of the, you know, the nearest farm show or whatever. So you get to go barrage people with questions.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah. That’s always fun.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah. Or put ’em on the spot. ’cause they don’t even, usually they don’t even know either, so. Right.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Oh, well I feel bad for the people that have to work the floor. ’cause they get, they get all kinds of weird
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Questions. Oh my goodness. Thanks. Yeah. I couldn’t imagine doing that. The guys that have to work the, uh, work the big shows. Yeah. Oh, no way. No way.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
So my article is based off of a, we’re based off of us walking the plot the other day. So we were out walking our Agri Gold plot. Um, I think we’ve got 26 hybrids out there this year. So we’ve got, uh, Becks DeCalb and Agri Gold in the plot. So we were walking and almost every variety had some form of an ear on it. Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It did
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Walk through the DeKalb. It’s the same exact way we walk through to the Becks. It’s the same exact way. Yep. That made me nervous. So I went to our trustee friends at the Ohio State University Oh boy. And pulled up a vomit toxin art.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
All right. Let’s hear it.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
My favorite part of this whole thing is the title Corn testing Positive for Vomitoxin. How reliable, reliable was the sampling? Uh, I think that’s the question that everybody that sits on a Cargill ADM Bunge lot. Yeah. How, how can I go through, you pull a sample that says there’s 26, I go through the line again. You pull a sample that says there’s two. Yeah. I mean, I get it. It’s parts per million. Uhhuh <affirmative>, if you grab a bad spot, you’re gonna get, you know, it doesn’t take a whole lot to throw off a parts per million number, but dog on it. That gets expensive running through the line two or three times and
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh, yeah. I
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Mean, for the same grain, I can understand, like, if it’s bad grain, it’s bad grain. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. But this isn’t something you can hide. This is, man, it’s just frustrating.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It’s not something, at least on the farmer level, you know, if you’re hauling outta your system, mama toxin, it isn’t something you can see really. You can’t smell it Right. Or nothing like that. I mean, maybe there’s indicators there, but I mean, we’ve never found any, any good way of, of, uh, telling. Right.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It, it, it’s that vomit toxin pieces is pretty tricky and you’re not even understanding what you’re dealing with until you get to the grain elevator. And they don’t, I’m not even sure they know what they’re dealing with. Right. And it seems to me like they’re, they’re sampling testing and there’s no consistency in it, which I get that they’re taking, I guess I get it to some extent what they’re taking, you know, a sandwich baggie full of corn out of your thousand bushel. And so when they roll back, you roll back through. I mean, it, it, it’s hard to tell how much it could actually vary within a thousand bushels.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Right, right. And I don’t know, it’s, I don’t know, it just doesn’t seem like a super fair test when the results are like that. But like you said, you’re taking such a small sample. I don’t know how you do, I don’t know how you do it any better without, you know, the load 15 times, but what’s it take 15 minutes?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah. It’s, it’s kind of a timely thing. Um, it’s been a while since I’ve been involved hauling grain down to the elevator, but the last time I did it, it was kind of in the heat of us fighting with the, uh, vomit toxic problems. And, uh, yeah. Yeah. You’d, uh, they would stick you, they’d, they’d stick you off to the side or whatever, just to, and you’d sit there, it could be 10, could be 20 minutes waiting on a, waiting on a test result, thumbs up, thumbs down, and you just hope for a thumbs up. Or you have to run back through the entirety of the line. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What you’re allow, you were, at least in our circumstance, we were allowed to what, go through and test it like twice or something before they kicked this out.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah. Then you just drove around the block again and did it for a third
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Time. Literally. I’ve never seen anything quite like that. And, you know, you go to a different facility that if you go to a different facility, they’re gonna give you a different number. I mean, every facility you go to and run that test, you’re gonna get a different number. So it’s a crap shoot.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah. Yeah. What I thought was interesting is, of course we hauled the ethanol plant here. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, <inaudible>, whatever. And they were super concerned because after making the ethanol, you know, you’re gonna kill hogs and cattle, whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Oh yeah. Yeah. With the DDGs. With
Speaker 1 (13:10):
The DDGs. But over at Dayton where they’re making corn syrup or Coke or Pepsi or whoever, that’ll be all right.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah. I’ll send it, send
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It. So it’s, uh, it’s just interesting to me. I don’t know how all that works. I guess it just goes through our bloodstream and is fine.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I don’t know. I don’t have the education to tell you that, but it is kind of, it is interesting how, how, uh, they don’t care as much.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Right. Yeah. I I just thought that was super intriguing that they, they were more worried about it getting concentrated and killing hogs than they were putting it into soda. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, I don’t know, man. They always, I mean, everywhere you look says we have the wor you know, of course that’s what you, they want you to read, I suppose, is that we have the worst food quality and all this here in the states, but I don’t know if I believe all that or not.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Just add a little extra red 40, it’ll be fine.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
That’s all do that red 40 gets to.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay. So they had some tips on here of how to manage it when you do have it. So, uh, dry your grain to 15% moisture or below that stops it from growing. Yeah. Uh, store your dried grain at cool temperatures ’cause moderate to high temperatures cause excess fungal growth. Right. Makes sense. Periodically check your grain for mold, insects, and temperature. So I’m gonna put number three as a do that, even if you don’t have vomitoxin <laugh>, because you go to pull a bin open and you know, may, you might be disappointed if you don’t check it.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Um, avoid storing severely affected grain too long. Yes. I would try to get rid of this stuff as quick as possible.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah. And I think this is gonna be the year that you need to get it moving.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Well, our problem is we have a few big bins.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So if you’re in a situation where you’ve got 10, 10,000 bushel bins versus one 100,000 bushel Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, you can, you know, pour out a couple of ’em and be like, oh, okay, we’re good in this one. You know, we’re good in the next one. Oh, this one’s hot. We’ll better get rid of it. Where in the hundred that stuff’s all mixed together, you have no idea.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Right. And I know we struggled even in our smaller bins, knowing where that grain came from and trying to make the association of, well, you know, maybe this field, this hybrid, um, we did this thing for, you know, different plant dates. Uh, just trying to put together reasoning that mom tox would either be be there or not be there. And then you’d take a load down and it would, it, you go through no problem. You load the next load out of the same bin and, uh, you’d get rejected. Well then, you know, you’d drive through the, drive through the lot two or three times and come back the next day, get it unloaded because it somehow managed to drop vomitoxin overnight, which is some kind of a miracle. And then you go back and do the same thing. I guess to me, it didn’t have enough consistency to be a problem you could even fight.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there’s no real way to, like you say, you can’t see it, you can’t smell it, so it’s hard to judge coming outta the bin. Yeah. Um, I mean, if I’ve got mold or, you know, rotten corn in my bin, I can smell it. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> I can see it, you know, when you’re through it. Yep. It just doesn’t happen with this. So that’s just another thing that guys here in Ohio are gonna be, uh, blessed with, I think this year. But yeah, hopefully, hopefully we don’t hear the v word from, from any of our green elevators that they’re testing for. ’cause man, that just, that just ruins everybody’s day when you’re trying to
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Haul. Oh lord. Yeah. You can’t get nothing done. You know, if you have to run, run through two or three times just to try to get unloaded and maybe even not get unloaded, it’s, it’s pretty defeating. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah. Not, not fun. Um, did you have another article
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Or, I did see something. I didn’t really dig into it all that much, but you remember they were going through this whole thing, um, this like the right to work on equipment thing from Deere guys getting access to diagnostic stuff and reading codes and manuals and stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I didn’t know that that was a problem,
Speaker 2 (17:28):
But it, for the last few years it has been like, okay. I, it’s been, I, I forget who started the lawsuit, but it was, I believe it was a group of
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Farmers. Can I join in? Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
<laugh>, apparently they said I did, I had to pull it up here. But it said something along the lines of they struck a deal. I dunno what kind of deal we’re striking, but apparently a deal has been struck or something. Uh, yeah. Right. To repair deal reached with deer. Yep. Um, allowing farmers to make repairs on their equipment without needing to go to the dealership. And for what, you know, I had a hard time understanding this ’cause I guess we haven’t had as much trouble with this.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
But, and I think, I think the majority of this is diagnostics. I think it’s the guys that, um, you know, have the, or at least have the desire to, you know, hook their laptop in and go through and do, you know, their own diagnostics actually in that machine. So
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah. I mean, it makes it tough, especially if you’re far away from a dealership to, you know, pay that repair or pay that, um, bill to get the guy out there. God knows how long it takes him to chase that electrical problem that you
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Have. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I mean, I would rather have a tire fall off the combine
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Than have a frigging electrical problem that I chased for three days at least I can physically see the
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Issue. Exactly. And those are some of the more frustrating ones and, uh, real frustrating when you can’t get support from your dealership.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yeah. It is, uh, luckily we deal with a couple really good mechanics that we, you know, we can call ’em and roll on, but
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Exactly. And that’s a good,
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Some of these guys do not have that.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, no. It, you know, I, I think we’re pretty fortunate to be in the situation we’re in with, you know, we’re, we’re friends with a couple of these guys and are able to, you know, work through it. One-on-one with the mechanic, we’re not really going through the whole, you know, calling in and
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Right. Waiting on a guy
Speaker 2 (19:40):
To get, getting whoever can get there first kind of thing. You know, we want to get who he knows good and
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Knows our machines.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, exactly. That’s worth, that’s worth everything, right?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah. I mean, if they’re doing the inspection on your machine, they’ve fixed it the last two or three times. You don’t want a new guy coming out spend an hour trying to figure out what’s going on. You want the guy that’s already been there and already knows the issue or knows your machine Oh yeah. What you’ve had done to it and everything.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
For sure. And you know, and you’d think everybody to get to know our machines ’cause we keep ’em so long, but <laugh> Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Right. We are what you call an end user. Yeah. So, yeah, I don’t if there’s a program out there to read that, what on earth do you charge for? That’s the problem. Well,
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I, it says here, uh, this would allow farmers to buy tools directly from Deere and get assistance from the company when ordering products. So maybe we can buy diagnostic equipment from Deere.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Oh, okay. I thought you meant they were gonna have people in the parts department. No. Oh, okay. Nevermind.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
What they should do is something more like, like an automated parts ordering system.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah. Like if it wasn’t for that app on my phone,
Speaker 2 (20:51):
We’d
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Be to get the part number every time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You be,
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You’d be in trouble.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, for sure. And that, ah, man, that drives me crazy. But I mean, it is just kinda, you know, I get upset about it as much as anybody, you know, used to be able to call in and say, um, I want this.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Call it the wrong name. Yeah. But they knew what you meant.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah. Well call it something. Or I’m looking for a, a filter. Well, it’s even as simple as that, right. A filter. Right. I’m looking for a hydraulic filter for X, Y, Z tractor, my 84 10 tractor or whatever. And uh, all right, let me look. And you don’t, uh, you might be on the phone on hold for like five to seven minutes Yeah. For them to find a filter. We just don’t do that anymore. Like the common practice on our farm is don’t even pick up the phone unless you have a part number in your hand.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
’cause and then the only person you can complain to is yourself when it’s
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
But I think it’s saved us a lot of heartache. I get it though. Those guys have a lot of different, um, like their serial number breaks, different styles of stuff. I mean, I can look it up so much faster ’cause I know what it is, but I think every parts guy needs to be a mechanic for a year.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Amen. And I think, you know, I think it did used to be more so that way you had guys, you know, the parts job kind of landed more with these older mechanics. They, you know Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
And they just like knew.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah. And they just knew you could just call in there with anything.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah. It’s that, you know, it’s that bearing right there behind the rotor housing. It’s got the three bolts in it. Oh yeah. That’s a re 52, 27.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Exactly. Right. I mean, that stuff’s really appreciated. But the biggest thing for me that you don’t, it’s hard to do and we have a hard time doing ourselves. It’s like so many of these parts cross over to something else, but like to get, to get deer or to get I’m sure any, any dealer to Oh yeah. I’ve heard to try to check across. Oh my goodness. It’s like pulling teeth. It’s like, well that doesn’t fit on there. I’m like, well yeah, it probably does. It’s just a different part number. Can we explore that? And they, uh,
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah. I’ve heard some bad stories with red. Um, of course there’s not a lot of guys that run cat stuff around here. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
We’re getting, getting red more blue all the time, which
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Is
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Interesting. Yeah. Getting to be more blue. I don’t know. I mean, I don’t know. We run green, that’s all we run, but I mean, you get to see a lot of blue, so I don’t know if that’s just a better deal on horsepower or what. Uh, big blue. I mean that’s what I’m seeing, right.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Big blue tractors, we would probably be more likely to flip flop back and forth if we trade it every two, three years. Oh, for sure. But you trade every 10 to 15 years, you kind of don’t Yeah. Try to stay as consistent as
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Possible. Oh yeah. And I couldn’t imagine having to deal with a couple different places on parts you hate to, what’s the alternative? Is the alternative any better or worse?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Right. Right. I mean, that’s, that’s what, that’s a chance you’re taking and then you’ve got something that you’re gonna keep for 15 years that you hope the dealer’s there and you hope that it’s decent. I mean, that’s about the only thing I’m consistent on is green equipment.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah. Oh yeah. Sure.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Except for a nice little yellow sprayer.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah. Which,
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Which deer now owns.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Which I feel like that’s a tricky one in, in and of itself too, is the, you know, the deer deer acquired Haggy and I still feel that there’s a lack of support for the Hagy guys.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah. Um, I don’t think it’s near as bad as it was.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
It’s not as bad as it was
Speaker 1 (24:35):
When they had Cummins engines in them.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
That was issue. See, that was tricky. That was the, I think Deere bit off more than they could chew. And they got them. Because I mean, if you buy a piece of machinery off your Dear Deer dealer, they own however much of a percentage of ha you
Speaker 1 (24:55):
49 or
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Enough of it. If you’re gonna sell ’em, you’re gonna sell parts. You’re gonna sell service. I should be able to call you to get those.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It didn’t happen.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
No, not at all. It was, uh,
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Not until we transitioned to a newer
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Machine, one that had a deer engine in it machine, the whole nine. I mean, now it’s been fine, but yeah,
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Has been bad. Those older ones, man, they, they needed to keep the old haggy wraps.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, they did. It was crazy, man. And, uh, because
Speaker 1 (25:25):
When you’re putting corn fungicide on Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, it’s time to go. Yeah. You can’t, it’s not time to fiddle fart around about, you know, oh, it’s Cummin’s problem. Oh no, it’s Deere’s problem. I don’t care whose problem it is, it’s my problem. It needs to be fixed.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Right. When you got more than one party involved on one machine, one of ’em is gonna blame the other one the entire time. Right. Unless it’s something completely oblivious. If you’re chasing out a sporadic problem, like what we dealt with almost all the time, that was no fun. No, it was a constant. They did this or it’s their coding, or it’s this or that. I’m like, dude, I don’t care. I just want the same run. Like, how can I do this the most effective way? And it’s just not that cut and dry, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I’ve got a one we don’t have to talk too long on, but one we already talked about in YouTube videos a little bit, is this, uh, Alex Harrell raising 206 bushel soybean.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I don’t even know what a 206 bushel soybean potential plant looks like.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I mean, I’m looking at some pictures right now. They’re insane. I mean, they’re just, they’re only about waist high. They’re in, in 30 inch rows, but these nodes are like stacked.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
You got a picture of over there? Take a look at this. Oh my God. That is crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
But he’s got standing out.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I mean, you look at that just a side by side of this dude standing out in the field, just like he’s standing in a mean field. But when you, when you, uh, showed me that picture of the pods and the hand, man. Oh my
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Goodness. Yeah. I mean, that’s insane. I can’t even, there’s 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 15 pods on one node. If I get three, I’m known him. I’m having a good
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Day. No doubt. <laugh>. Dude, that is wild.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And I don’t know how tight those nodes are together, but dude, that’s wild. Especially if you can hold ’em.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Oh yeah. I mean, you put a, you put a lot of pods on, they end up war or falling off or not putting anything off. Yeah. It’s uh, it’s, it’s crazy. Could you imagine cutting beans like that
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Would not do it very fast. 2 0 6.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
2 0 6, man. That’s a good yield number for coal. Yeah. For a lot of guys on rough ground anyway, but
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Man, so Yeah, I was, I was cutting between 85 and 90 last night when I quit, and that combine was feeling it at four mile an hour.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Oh, I bet.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So if you’re running a little over double that you’re talking, you’re not going over two mile an hour.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
No. It’d be like cutting wheat.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah. It would be be a slow process. But how many combines could you buy for 206 bushel beans?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Couple, couple. Maybe we can make it work.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Right. Yeah. I think, uh, I think we all need to worry about raising 206 bushel beans before we worry about how we’re gonna cut them.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, that’s true. That’s true. Good problem to deal with though, man. Yeah. Tell you what
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Some of my, uh, my favorite part of this article, and we were reading it, what we talked about earlier is that, uh, he contributes a lot of his success to Brant Fertilizer.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Yeah, yeah, he does.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I’m like, right on, man. Which is kind of exciting. I mean, he’s a, he’s a student of Dowdy obviously, but, uh, and Dowdy broke the world record, uh, two or three years ago. Uh, and he was using a lot of Brent stuff. Okay. So the previous world record was 190 bushel in 2019. Wow. So we’re here four years later and we’re what, 16 bushel better?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah. That is crazy though.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
It’s pretty good. But I mean, Dowdy was using a lot of Brandt. Uh, Alex Harrell is now using a lot of Brant, uh, what I see. He was using Grant Smart Trio, grant Smart Quatro grant, smart KB grant, seed zone zinc. And then he was using the southeast mix, um, which is made for the southeast <laugh>, what I’ve read on the southeast mix. It is really a grant smart trio with some extra magnesium, which I, it doesn’t really say in here what his soil type is like if he’s a, he’s more of a sandy soil. He’s probably got some magnesium deficiencies.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah. Makes sense.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Here at home we’ve got so much magnesium, we’re trying to get rid of it. Uh, it’s interesting. But he’s a, he’s a happy camper. He probably doesn’t have to worry about farming too much anymore. He’s gonna be a, uh, he’s
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Gonna be a spokesperson
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Probably. Yeah. He’s gonna be a sponsor guy going around talking at meetings. But what a dude go forth and prosper. I mean, you look at Dowdy and Hula and all those big guys, they’ve, they’ve made a name for themselves and they’re celebrities essentially now. Yeah,
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Definitely. In the agricultural world. They’re, they’re for sure celebrities. Everybody knows who they are.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah. So can’t, uh, can’t blame ’em for that. I mean, if you can make money off that,
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Oh, why not? And it’s, it’s, you know, we like to do that too. We like to play around and experiment and kind of see what happens. He’s able to do it and make it a profit center. So good for him.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Okay. Here’s a good one. Okay. So almost all foliar products applied by Harold. Were Brant based. We also used a lot of pgs, both sprayed and in furrow from Loveland. So IE radiate.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Uh, and ROI, biologicals, never heard of them. Also, we put humic acid from ROI biologicals along with the sugar product and a fulvic acid from tva. Oh crap. What is TVA’s Sugar product? Um, I’ve talked to them before. I know that Dowdy was always big on their sugar product, but, uh,
Speaker 2 (32:02):
It’s called, it, it’s the company’s tva.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah. T-E-V-A-T-E-V-A. I believe they’re based out of Georgia.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Oh, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Um, yeah, they always have a booth set up at Commodity Classic in Louisville. But yeah, they, I mean, I don’t know if Dowdy used radiator or whatever, but Dowdy used Brant and Dowdy used Tiva. So I would consider that a pattern at this point.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, I’d say so. Yeah. I mean, I think brand offers you a lot of, I mean, can hand select micronutrients from ’em? I mean, they have those, I mean Trio, Quatro alone, those are, those are pretty well-made products. Yeah. High
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Quality. They’re, uh, the smart system’s. What makes ’em different, right. I mean, anybody can make a 9% zinc. Oh yeah. I mean, there’s better 9% zincs than others, but it’s not like it, it’s not that much different where you get into the smart stuff that’s a was a sugar alcohol chelation is totally different than any other thing on the market. Um, so I think that’s why these guys have stuck with them on foliar products in furrow. I would assume they’re using somebody different. I don’t know. They had all, they’re just talking about foliar products that are brand based, so.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Right. They may have went some other route in for, uh,
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, I wish they would’ve told us what they went in furrow. That would’ve been really nice. But I mean, maybe, I know Doughty’s kind of against nutrition in furrow. He, he used to be nutrition. Now he’s mostly, uh, sugar’s, hormones and, uh, humic. Fulvic. So if we’re looking here, they’re talking. Yeah. Uh, plant growth regulators in furrow. We also used humic humic acid and sugar. So I’m assuming that that’s probably what was in there in furrow. Right. There’s a plant growth regulator, uh, humic Vic blend and some kind of sugar. So I could get behind that.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah. I mean, why not? I mean, if it works, it works. But I mean, these guys are outta Georgia, right? Yes. Then they’re dealing with at least a more stable temperature there.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah. They get, well, they probably get hot.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Well, I’m sure they get hot, but if you’re talking that early springtime pop-up weather. Right, right. They’re, you know, maybe, maybe the infra fertilizer isn’t as big of a, uh, advantage there with a consistent temperature.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Um, and he’s running irrigation, so that helps. But he can cool the beans.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
I mean, if he could control water, you gotta make the shape.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
We could control water. We’d be a lot different than we are
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Today. That ain’t no doubt.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
My goodness. It is dry. Uh, yeah. It’s, uh, interesting. Uh, KIPP colors was a hundred, uh, let’s see. Yeah, Kip Colors was 161. He was the first one to really kind of break through. I remember when he did that, that was when we were still with Conklin.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, I remember that too. ’cause he had the, he had his own product.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah. Yep. Uh, nutrient Compass. That’s
Speaker 2 (35:16):
What it was. His picture was on the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Heck yes. Why not? I’d put, if I made a product and Mr. Harrell was using it, I would put his face on the front and the back.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
I mean, he’s got a lot of years to get this recognition, you know, the visual recognition like Dowdy. But you know, when he, when he gets up there, I, I would use him in any kind of marketing I could.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Absolutely. ’cause you’re like, oh, that’s the high yield soybean guy. Gotta use that stuff. Man
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Had five bean pods. He said we had more four bean pods than two bean pods.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
No way.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Uh, three bean pods was always the biggest. You’ll have a few four bean pods and a lot of tubing this year. Saw more fours and twos, man.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
But I mean, really controlling the water. I mean, just really thinking about it in the soybean situation. I mean, they can create stress. They can mitigate stress. I mean, you having the control over the water Right. Is crazy. I mean, that’s how you get it to stack nodes. Right.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah. I don’t think we could dig a well deep enough to get enough water here to irrigate.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
No, I really don’t. If
Speaker 1 (36:28):
We could, if we could, then I would be interested. Sweet. At least on our own acres right here.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah. Yeah. I think it would be a huge advantage to have that. I mean, assuming you have the, you know, the water to do it
Speaker 1 (36:42):
And three more guys to make sure that they’re running all
Speaker 2 (36:44):
The time. Yeah. I know. It seems like that is, that would just be a heck of a maintenance item.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Well, I mean in one word, leverage. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. I mean, think about how long that thing is with those drive tires out there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I mean that
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Just, ugh, you hit a rock, you hit a something. I just feel like that would just make a mess.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah. And I, you know what’s funny to me it’s like, uh, of course I’m on the TikTok or whatever, but that, that has helped give me like a better view or everybody get a better view of what others do during like, you know, all the time. Yeah. And so, you know, obviously my feed’s a lot of ag stuff and you know, so on and so forth. And so much of it was guys out there working on all irrigation or the, or you know, the pivots ran into something or blew a tire. Got stuck. Yeah. Like, man, I didn’t even know all that was like, I’m sure they’re a pain, but how big of a pain? And it looks like, it looks like it would ruin yourself.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Well, there’s some guys that probably couldn’t raise the first bushel if they didn’t have it.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Well, some people don’t know any better been in practice for years doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Well, I mean, think about how much spraying ruins your summer. We still do it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Well, yeah. But
Speaker 1 (37:54):
You just have to pick your battle. You
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Do have to pick your battle. It’s one thing or another. I mean, we’d find something to do regardless. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I mean, yeah. We, we would figure out something to do.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah. We never, we don’t vacation very much. So like some of these guys, <laugh>, you have the, have the small group that, uh, plants gets on a plane, goes to Florida, flies back, harvests, puts a combine of the barn, flies back to Florida. Oh man. Ain’t that one way to do it.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Four, four forty four is what they call them. Four in the spring. Four, four weeks in the spring. Four weeks in the fall and 44 weeks to do whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Amen. And hey, if you could make that work and it ain’t more power to you,
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Uh,
Speaker 2 (38:37):
You got something else?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
No, I’m just, I’m just flipping through. It’s telling more of his program. Uh, they were asgrow xt, inflex beans. He had to kill them to harvest them, which doesn’t really surprise me. Uh, it says he used a biological seed treatment on them. So I’m assuming that he puts some kind of really strong inoculant on there.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I mean these beans are green. So I would say his inoculate package was very good. Course these guys can’t give away their secrets.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
No, they can’t tell you everything. He ain’t gonna tell you what’s soybean inoculate. He’s using them. He will Simple. Right. Because he figures out how to monetize.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Right, right, right. Once he’s in on it, he’ll get it done. But he wide drop them.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
You know, I thought that was crazy. And we have a customer who, who did that. Right. And
Speaker 1 (39:37):
He raises good
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Beans. He raises good beans. Twin row. Twin row beans. Why dropping those things too. That’s why
Speaker 1 (39:43):
<laugh>. But he’s putting KTS, he’s putting uh oh, uh, oh oh 25 17 mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Uh, which is, I mean, it’s a pretty good product. Uh, you just can’t usually get it on soybeans ’cause you don’t have like, we put it on every acre of corn. Right. But to try to add it to soybeans is crazy to us. ’cause we’re in 15 inch rows. We can’t do anything with it. But he’s putting it on in those twin rows has really good success with it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
I think it’s wild. I mean, 30 inch rows do give you the opportunity to do some, you know, playing around with stuff like
Speaker 1 (40:19):
That. That would be kind of fun. I mean, we do have wide drops on the Sidedress bar.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
That’s true.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Let’s just do something stupid.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah. We need more to do. We’re Go ahead Sidedress corn. We’ll go in there. Sidedress the soybeans.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (40:31):
We just won’t stop.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
It would give us a good excuse to get a really cool sidedress bar.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
That’s true. That’s true. Maybe that’s something we need to explore more.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Well, that’s all I got. You got anything else?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
I don’t think so, but I do think everybody’s getting here. It’s probably time to get things moving. Try to get as much done today before this rain rolls through. And hopefully the next time we talk to you guys, we’re done cutting soybeans and we’re caught up on all our extracurriculars and we’re hot and heavy shelling corn.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah. Hopefully, uh, hopefully corn harvest is rolling. Um, I’ve gotten some test results in from our soybean harvest, some of the side-by-sides. We did, uh, some of, I’m gonna have to put through the computer just because of the way it’s tracked, but, um, I’ve posted some of ’em on YouTube, but a lot of ’em will come this winter once we get ’em through the, the yield analysis on the computer. So, uh, be sure to, uh, like and review us, uh, on your favorite pod catcher. Uh, visit us on the social medias, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. Twitter’s pretty boring, but Facebook and Instagram, we usually put some pretty cool stuff on.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, yeah. We’re up here. We’re on the gram <laugh>. You know, we’re up, we’re with all the kids
Speaker 1 (41:46):
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